Moxie Menu

Pho vs ramen: what's the difference?

Pho is Vietnamese rice noodle soup in a clear, spiced beef broth with fresh herbs and lime, while ramen is Japanese wheat noodles in a richer, saltier broth.

Pho

Clear, aromatic broth with star anise, silky rice noodles and fresh herbs.

Ramen

Springy wheat noodles in a deep, savory, often fatty broth.

The real difference

Pho's broth simmers beef bones with charred onion, ginger, star anise and cinnamon, then gets strained clear. It comes with flat rice noodles and a plate of herbs, lime and chili to add yourself. Ramen uses springy wheat noodles in pork, chicken or miso broth, with toppings like chashu pork and a soft egg.

Side by side

PhoRamen
NoodlesFlat rice noodlesSpringy wheat noodles
BrothClear, spiced beef or chickenPork, chicken, miso or soy, often rich
ToppingsThin beef, herbs, lime, sproutsChashu pork, egg, scallion, nori
TastesAromatic, light, freshSavory, salty, rich

Which to order

Quick questions

Is pho lighter than ramen?
Usually. Pho's broth is clear and lean, while ramen broths like tonkotsu are cloudy with pork fat. Some shio ramen is light too.
How do you pronounce pho?
Closer to fuh than foe, with a tone English doesn't have. Nobody at the counter will mind either way.